Category: Lead the Conversaion

This is our final episode of peeling back the onion of the father wound. If you’ve listened to the previous episodes, a father wound can really relate to any wound from many different types of trauma. Since this is the Lead the Conversation piece of our podcast series, this is where we address questions and comments from our treasured listeners. And because neither Megan nor Becky are licensed professionals, they decided to bring in a little bit of back-up. Well, alot of back-up. Candice Ruttner-Duryea is a licensed marriage and family therapist/psychologist specializing in trauma care. She has done an amazing job partnering with Sonja Corbitt and walking through the science behind what Sonja shares in her Healing the Father Wound series. From denial to playing the victim, we get down to the nitty gritty this week with Candice. Please make sure you watch the youTube videos in the show notes along with catching Sonja’s series on the father wound.

Candice Ruttner-Duryea is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. Candice offers therapy for individuals, couples and families at her private practice in San Diego, California.

With over 15 years of experience as a marriage and family therapist and as a graduate of Loma Linda University specializing in Eating Disorders, PTSD, Trauma, and Children, she is currently serving as private practitioner working with a broad spectrum of clients.

Candice offers a highly personalized approach tailored to each client based on their needs. She provides the support and practical feedback needed to help clients effectively address personal challenges. Candice offers a wide range of emotional and behavioral therapy services that span from depression and grief counseling, parenting support, couples counseling, and more. She is dedicated to help each client attain the personal growth they are striving for and will work diligently until that is accomplished.

Candice is married and has 3 beautiful children.

Show Notes:

We sure have been mulling over this word, meekness.  Have you?  For the most part, that virtue has been a bit of a challenge for us women to fully and freely accept and practice. On Episode 22 Megan and Becky recap some of the high points and some of the listener comments from our interview with Dr. Carrie Gress.  We hope you join us as we pull out and work though some of these topics like meekness and sweetness and more. 



Show Notes:

  • If There is an AntiChrist what about an Antimary?
  • “What, then, would an antimary movement look like, exactly? Well, these women would not value children. They would be bawdy, vulgar, and angry. They would rage against the idea of anything resembling humble obedience or self-sacrifice for others. They would be petulant, shallow, catty, and overly sensuous. They would also be self-absorbed, manipulative, gossipy, anxious, and ambitious. In short, it would be everything that Mary is not.” –Carrie Gress
  • “The devil knows that all these marks of the antimary – rage, indignation, vulgarity, and pride – short circuit women’s greatest gifts: wisdom, prudence, patience, unflappable peace, intuition, and the capacity for a deep relationship with God. Instead he promises power, fame, fortune, respect, and sterile fleeting pleasures. And like Eve, women of the antimarian movement are still falling for his lies.” –Carrie Gress

We had so much fun talking with Christy Brunk on Episode 16 and appreciate the points she brought up about persevering and being real.  On this week’s episode, Megan and Becky share some listener comments and explore more ways we can see the beauty in our days while keeping it real.  Especially with social media having such an influence in our lives, how might we be authentic yet not overly pessimistic or unrealistically positive.  Rather than celebrating failures, knowing that we need to practice seeing that we should celebrate the redemption of our failures by a loving Father who is molding us more into who He created us to be.

Show Notes:

  • “The great thing, if one can, is to stop regarding all the unpleasant things as interruptions of one’s ‘own,’ or ‘real’ life. The truth is of course that what one calls the interruptions are precisely one’s real life — the life God is sending one day by day.”  –C.S. Lewis
  • Teaching From Rest  by Sarah Mackenzie
  • Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do; and the God of peace will be with you.”  Phillipians 4:8-9

LItany of Humility:

  • O Jesus! meek and humble of heart, Hear me.
    From the desire of being esteemed,
    Deliver me, Jesus.

    From the desire of being loved…
    From the desire of being extolled …
    From the desire of being honored …
    From the desire of being praised …
    From the desire of being preferred to others…
    From the desire of being consulted …
    From the desire of being approved …
    From the fear of being humiliated …
    From the fear of being despised…
    From the fear of suffering rebukes …
    From the fear of being calumniated …
    From the fear of being forgotten …
    From the fear of being ridiculed …
    From the fear of being wronged …
    From the fear of being suspected …

    That others may be loved more than I,
    Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

    That others may be esteemed more than I …
    That, in the opinion of the world,
    others may increase and I may decrease …
    That others may be chosen and I set aside …
    That others may be praised and I unnoticed …
    That others may be preferred to me in everything…
    That others may become holier than I, 
    provided that I may become as holy as I should…

“Therefore it is said, ‘Awake , O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give you light.’  Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, making the most of the time, because the days are evil.  Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.  And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery; but be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another in psalms and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with all your heart, always and for everything giving thanks in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father.”  -Ephesians 5:14-20

This week we get to follow up with listener comments from our beautiful conversation on Episode 14 where Teresa Peterson shared her struggles and the ongoing redemption of her journey. Megan and Becky will dig deeper into the Scriptures and reflect further into the beauty of fully surrendering our lives to our Loving Father in heaven.  All the while, encouraging their listeners to remember salvation is a process and that God wants to save us every day.



  • Come, Lord Jesus – Meditations on the Art of Waiting Mother Mary Francis, P.C.C.
  • “Anxiety is the greatest evil that can befall a soul, except sin.  God commands you to pray, but He forbids you to worry.”St. Francis de Sales
  • Rejoice always, pray constantly, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.” 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 
  • “I will bless the Lord at all times;  his praise shall continually be in my mouth.”  Psalm 34:1

“Let no one come here, who with his lips can say, ‘We lift up our hearts to our Lord’, but in his mind employs his thoughts on worldly business.  God indeed should be in our memory at all times, but if this is impossible because of human infirmity, at least in this hour this should be our earnest endeavour.” –St. Cyril of Jerusalem (c.315 – 387)

Last week we heard from professor and author, Timothy O’Malley of Notre Dame.  He shared from his book, Bored Again Catholic, and those words really spoke to not only Megan and Becky but also to their listeners.  On this week’s episode, Megan and Becky again Lead the Conversation.  We take some insights and comments from listeners and dig in deeper with more Scripture, early church fathers, and Saints.  We are so blessed with a beautiful and rich and full Tradition.  Being bored at Mass (or prayer or other  spiritual discipline) is an invitattion to walk in faith knowing that Jesus is meeting all of us on that alter. Every day, every Mass, regardless of how we feel and whether or not we think we deserve His love, Mercy and or the gift of the Grace of the Eucharist, Jesus is there.

Show Notes:

Last week we got to sink our teeth into a new episode on the last of our four pillars, freedom. Helen Alvare did a fantastic job at giving us so much to start chewing on and this is our opportunity to build on and start finding some ways to apply these principles to our everyday lives in our domestic churches. Megan and Becky take listener questions and comments to lead the conversation this week.  The hosts talk about practical ways to introduce the concept of true freedom to children of various ages and also about how we can approach our fertility in light of potential health risks.

Show Notes:

20 year old college sophomore and 25 year old new mom in the business world/blogger kick off the lead the conversation on Freedom part 1.  The hosts and guests recount some of the very powerful statements made by Gloria Purvis in our previous episode on Freedom. All ladies agreeing on how we get to stand firm on the Truths of the feminine genius laid out by Mother Church and that true freedom ultimately lies in freely choosing God’s divine will for our lives by choosing to be who our loving Father created us to be.  

Our Guests:

Elizabeth Schrieber is a sophomore at the University of Notre Dame majoring in Science & Business. She is a daughter, sister, friend, D1 rower, comedian, bible study leader, tailgater and a serious foodie. She attended SEEK 2017 and will be serving on a FOCUS missionary trip this summer. She loves family,  friends, and quick witted banter.







Samantha Povlock is a 25 year-old Indiana native finding her way in the big city of Chicago. She’s married to her college sweetheart, Matt, who’s a fellow Notre Dame business/theology grad. They have one son, Liam. Samantha currently works in finance consulting, and spends her spare time (coffee in hand!) running, a blog to educate, encourage, and empower women in the Church.  She’d love to hear from you there, on Facebook or Instagram.

Show Notes:

  • Interior Freedom by Jacque Phillipe
  • “The highest and most fruitful form of human freedom is found in accepting, even more than in dominating. We show the greatness of our freedom when we transform reality, but still more when we accept it trustingly as it is given to us day after day.
    It is natural and easy to go along with pleasant situations that arise without our choosing them. It becomes a problem, obviously, when things are unpleasant, go against us, or make us suffer. But it is precisely then that, in order to become truly free, we are often called to choose to accept what we did not want, and even what we would not have wanted at any price. There is a paradoxical law of human life here: one cannot become truly free unless one accepts not always being free!
    To achieve true interior freedom we must train ourselves to accept, peacefully and willingly, plenty of things that seem to contradict our freedom. This means consenting to our personal limitations, our weaknesses, our powerlessness, this or that situation that life imposes on us, and so on. We find it difficult to do this, because we feel a natural revulsion for situations we cannot control. But the fact is that the situations that really make us grow are precisely those we do not control.” ― Jacques Philippe, Interior Freedom


This week is our segment called, Lead the Conversation.  This is where we invite you, our listener, to join us to keep unpacking the previous week’s topic – Friendship and Laughter. 

We invited listeners Christy White and Adrea Stuecker to lead the conversation for us. Christy and Adrea share with us about the burden of loneliness and friendly confrontations. But don’t worry, we get to the laughter too.

Our Guests:

Christy White and her husband,Tim, have 5 children (3 boys/2 girls) and have been married for 20 years.  Their eldest son is in his first year of college and she home schools the 4 younger ones in Bella Vista, Arkansas.  Christy is a convert (22 years this Easter!) and absolutely loves being Catholic! Bring her a great cup of coffee and a good book and you will be her best friend!  

You can connect with Christy on FB and IG.

Adrea Stuecker is a convert to the catholic faith, the wife of Jason, and mama to three sweet babes Hampton (8),  Hadley (5), and one son born into heaven.  Adrea is a self proclaimed recovering CPA trying to suppress her type A-ness in the midst of motherhood’s messiness.  She loves cooking, baking, and anything her kids are into.  Her favorite saints are St. Faustina and St. Mary Magdalene.

 Adrea wold love for you to come say hello and connect on IG. 

Show Notes:

  • “If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world.”C.S. Lewis

  • “People won’t care what you know until they know how much you care.” – original author unknown.
  • “28 Peter began to say to him, “Lo, we have left everything and followed you.” 29 Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, 30 who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life.[g] 31 But many that are first will be last, and the last first.'”Mark 10:28-31
  • “Yet we all know from experience that when we give God time, we are happy. When we cheat God, we cheat ourselves. We know this from thousands of repeated experiments. And yet we keep running away from God, from communion with God, from prayer, as if it were bitter medicine” –Peter Kreeft on Time
  • “Complaining to the Lord of her treatment, she heard him reply, “Teresa, whom the Lord loves, he chastises. This is how I treat all my friends.” She replied tartly, “No wonder you have so few!'” St. Teresa of Avila


We are so excited to introduce our “Lead the Conversation” portion of the podcast! This is were we invite you, our listener, to join us as we breakdown the topic from the previous week’s episode. This week we follow up on Episode 2 – Domestic Church.

On this week’s episode, Megan and Becky invite listeners Christine Rizzo and Mary Kate Wallin to lead the conversation.  The different perspectives from these women offer encouragement, inspiration, and comfort.  From a divorced, single mom of grown children who is now hosting exchange students in her home to a mom who is just starting out; we hit many different aspects of the fullness, uniqueness, and universality of the Body of Christ in our Domestic Churches.

Our Guests:

Christine is a mom, educator, speaker and minister to those separated/divorced.  Experiencing the trauma of divorce personally, Christine’s life was broken open and blessed in new and unexpected ways.  Falling back into the arms the Catholic Church, she discovered much hope and healing in the Sacraments, the Gospel and Saint John Paul II’s Theology of the Body.  Her experiences led to a profound reversion and a new vigor for sharing the faith, especially the Church’s teachings on vocation, married love and responsible parenthood.   

Christine received a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from St. Bonaventure University and Master’s degree from St. Charles Seminary’s School of Theology.  Spending most of her professional career in the corporate world, she is currently sharing her love for Christ and His Church as a high school Theology teacher in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia.   She enjoys traveling and cooking for her family – and considers herself a passionate advocate for life, marriage and authentic healthcare.  Christine lives outside of Philadelphia and has three college age children.  

Christine can be reached at, On twitter or in the kitchen cooking up some goodness!


Mary Kate is a mom to two energetic little girls, Emily (4) and Madelyn (2). Married to her best friend, Andrew, the Wallins are trying to thrive in the trenches daily! Mary Kate and Andrew both grew up in the Philadelphia area, attended Catholic grade school and high school and both graduated from Saint Joseph’s University. Mary Kate went on to receive a Masters Degree in school counseling from Villanova University and has been working to spread Christ’s light and love through counseling students K-8 for over 5 years. The Wallin Family loves the beach, Matt Maher’s music, lots of ice cream, their alma mater- SJU but most of all spending time with their families, their greatest models of joy-filled domestic churches. Mary Kate and Andrew are especially grateful for God’s mercy, grace and love as they navigate the challenging and exhausting waters of parenthood.

You can connect with Mary Kate on IG

Show Notes and Links:

 You: Life, Love, and Theology of the Body By Brian Butler, Jason & Crystalina EvertYou:

Theology of the Body for Beginners By Christopher West

My Friends the Saints

Saints for Young Readers (Vols 1 and 2)   “I love this one because it follows the church calendar so you read one a day.  They are short and easy to understand”. -Becky

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